republicans called us, i mean, they called us jihadists. and newt gingrich and bill clinton used that to get a more center, middle deal. >> i think a lot of people look at the republican party and think there's all these extremists. i'm on capitol hill day in and day out. i think they feel boxed in by these fiscal fights. you look at eric cantor's speech, didn't talk about fiscal battles. it was about education, reaching out to families. republicans feel they're in this horrible situation where every week it's another budget fight. and they want to move on. it's not just about cleaning the party of certain elements. it's about getting to a new message. >> quickly, a couple of house-cleaning things. ben, how old are you? >> 36. >> you're a little old to be called a boy wonder. >> oldest living boy wonder. >> teenage sensation. >> i'll take it. >> that was a pretty good article. >> my mom loved it. >> i bet she did. suitable for framing. look at this picture, he looks like a boy wonder. >> he is a boy wonder. >> and of course, bob, you broke